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James Lyons-Weiler's avatar

The argument needs shoring up, a little. Implicit assumption, leap from 3 to 4, and assumption of completeness. Let me try to explain. The argument—particularly in its transition from Step 3 to Step 4—reveals areas where its structure may benefit from further refinement. Kindly, but critically I share on the points where its reasoning could be strengthened.

Step 3 asserts: ∀x ¬∃y (¬(y = x) ∧ ¬(y = ¬x)). Here, the argument seeks to exclude the existence of any y that is neither x nor ¬x. This, prima facie, appears reasonable within a classical framework. Yet, a more careful inspection raises several questions.

Firstly, one wonders: what precisely is the nature of y? Is y intended to signify another entity, a potential state, or a truth value? The argument does not specify. If y is an entity distinct from x, the claim appears to exclude 'third things' in the existential domain of x. But if y is a truth value, the claim is more nuanced, requiring us to assume the domain of truth values is restricted to classical bivalence—true and false, with no intermediate values.

This ambiguity, though subtle, is significant. Without explicitly clarifying what y represents, the claim risks being interpreted differently by different audiences, particularly those inclined toward non-classical frameworks where y might inhabit a 'middle' or indeterminate state.

Step 4, the conclusion that: ∀x (¬x ∨ x), presents the Law of Excluded Middle, which assures us that every proposition is either true or false. While this principle is axiomatic in classical logic, its derivation from Step 3 is less self-evident.

Step 3 excludes the possibility of y being 'between' x and ¬x, yet this alone does not necessarily demonstrate that x is either true or false. Step 3 pertains to the existential domain—what y may or may not be. Step 4, however, *is a claim about propositional truth*—a subtle but critical distinction that may be behind the absurdity you mention. The derivation, as presented, seems to conflate existentialism (statement) and a proposition.

It would be most helpful if the argument explicitly bridged this conceptual divide. For example, one might introduce a principle asserting the exhaustiveness of x and ¬x in all possible scenarios. This additional premise would transform the argument from an implicit leap into a well-supported chain of reasoning.

We can also recognize that not all logic conforms to the classical mold. In other systems, such as paraconsistent or multi-valued logics, the claim of Step 4 is far from inevitable.

For instance: In paraconsistent logic, x and ¬x might both be true without trivializing the system. In multi-valued logics, truth values could inhabit a continuum, rendering x and ¬x neither mutually exclusive nor exhaustive. In constructive logic, the principle ¬x ∨ x holds only when one can constructively prove either x or ¬x.

The original argument would benefit from acknowledging these alternatives, not to adopt them, but to distinguish its conclusions as contingent upon the classical framework it employs.

To strengthen the argument while preserving its intent, three refinements may be considered: First, clearly define whether y represents an entity, a state, or a truth value. This removes ambiguity and ensures the argument is understood in its proper context. Second, provide an explicit justification for how excluding 'third terms' in the domain of y translates into the propositional truth of x ∨ ¬x. Introducing a principle of exhaustiveness or mutual exclusivity would solidify this connection. Third, briefly acknowledge that the argument’s conclusions rely on classical assumptions. I hope this helps!

PS There is also an implicit, unstated assumption about simultaneity of state - see Dialetheic logic... if it can oscillate between two states, we can say it is both, but we should be clear on the domain of logic we are using.

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The Duke Report's avatar

I asked GPT to explain it to me like I'm 12. (Is this correct?) Here's what it said:

The "Law of Excluded Middle" is a basic idea in logic that says every statement is either true or false—there's no middle option. For example, the statement "It is raining" is either true (if it's raining) or false (if it's not raining). There's no third choice where it's both raining and not raining at the same time.

This principle helps us think clearly and make decisions based on whether statements are true or false. However, some thinkers argue that not all situations fit neatly into this true-or-false framework. For instance, in complex scenarios or certain philosophical discussions, a statement might not be easily classified as entirely true or entirely false. In such cases, the Law of Excluded Middle might not apply perfectly.

Understanding this law is important because it forms the foundation of logical reasoning, helping us analyze arguments and solve problems by determining the truthfulness of statements.

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